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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

514 | The More I Tinker, The Worse it Gets

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Business, Careers

4.8 β€’ 5.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 7 October 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Jeremy Schneider's portfolio once held 16 different ETFs β€” and significantly underperformed a simple target-date fund he bought on the same day. After selling his company and receiving a windfall, he learned that complexity in investing doesn't just waste time β€” it costs real money. This conversation explores why simplicity beats sophistication in personal finance, how the financial advisory industry's incentive structure works against most clients, and the launch of Nectarine, a platform connecting people with fiduciary advisors for hourly consultations. Chapters [00:01:17] Introduction to Jeremy Schneider [00:02:01] Journey to Simplicity [00:02:55] The Portfolio Story [00:41:00] Lessons on Financial Advisors [00:57:02] Overview of Nectarine Key Points Simplicity has actual financial value. [00:05:02] Jeremy's complex portfolio of 16 ETFs underperformed a single target-date index fund over the same period β€” proof that more moving parts don't equal better returns. The more I tinker, the worse it gets. [00:09:29] Over-managing your portfolio can diminish returns. Jeremy's experience shows that frequent adjustments often hurt performance rather than help it. Your portfolio is like a bar of soap; the more you touch it, the smaller it gets. [00:10:58] Minimizing contact with your portfolio allows compound growth to work uninterrupted. Sell shares for income instead of relying on dividends. [00:24:23] Rather than chasing dividend-paying stocks, Jeremy advocates selling a percentage of your holdings annually for income β€” functionally identical but more tax-efficient. Financial advisor incentives are often misaligned. [00:48:03] Many advisors operate on commission-based or AUM (Assets Under Management) models that prioritize their revenue over client outcomes. Seek advice-only financial advisors for unbiased guidance. Nectarine connects users with fiduciary advice-only financial advisors. [00:57:02] This platform allows you to hire vetted fiduciary advisors hourly, providing expert guidance without traditional constraints or conflicts of interest. Resources Personal Finance Club Nectarine Terminology Fiduciary β€” An individual or organization required to act in the best interest of another party. [00:42:09] ETF β€” Exchange-Traded Fund, a marketable security that tracks an index, commodity, or collection of assets. [00:02:14] AUM β€” Assets Under Management, the total market value of investments a financial institution manages on behalf of clients. [00:44:04] β–Ά Listen Next: Ep. 515 β€” Cyber Security Update: Social Engineering & Pig Butchering | Essential Listening

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0:14.8

Hello and welcome to choose a fight today in the show we have a really good one we have my friend Jeremy Schneider on and he is the founder of Personal Finance Club which has over 600,000 followers on Instagram and he basically just started this essentially as a passion project in early retirement after he sold his company in 2015 he

0:20.2

started Personal Finance Club in 2019 and interestingly and this I've mentioned a couple times in our newsletter

0:26.5

he's the co-founder of Nectarine which actually just launched earlier this

0:31.1

year and it's basically a fiduciary advice only

0:35.0

advisors that you can hire hourly. So this is something I've been looking for for

0:40.1

years. I get emails all the time, hey, I don't really want to hire, certainly an

0:45.2

assets under management, financial advisor. I don't really even need a full financial plan.

0:50.1

I just have some questions and I want a professional to answer it.

0:53.4

And that's what's so cool about Nectarine is you can just literally hire them for an hour

0:57.6

and just pepper them with questions and it's really simple and I think

1:02.2

simplicity is such a key to not only something like this but our financial lives as well and

1:09.6

Jeremy and I both have a through line of simplicity in our financial lives so I think this

1:13.7

can be a really fun conversation and with that welcome to Chisovai. I can't believe it's been seven years I've been doing this,

1:29.6

and we haven't had you on the podcast. I'm really, really happy to rectify that mistake.

1:33.6

Hi, Brad, thank you. I know, it's such an honor to be here.

1:36.5

Well, yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. So let's start with simplicity, because I think both you and I are maybe in our background so I'm a

1:45.3

CPA you're an engineer we potentially could have the tendency to maybe over

1:51.4

analyze over-optimize but I know from having to maybe over analyze, over optimize.

1:53.6

But I know from having talked to you that simplicity is something you're striving for today.

1:59.6

And that's something that I'm striving for today.

2:01.9

I'd love to hear the journey because I know it hasn't always

2:04.7

been that way and I mentioned in the intro that you sold your company and you had a what

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