My name is Marcus Fienbouh and I work as a traffic planner in Stockholm, Sweden.

I understand that in a previous life and maybe still in your current life that you were

a pretty devout, I don't know what's the best word for what you were, a transit protester,

a transit anarchist, a public transit advocate bringing more access to public transit for

people.

Just pronounce the name of the organization is it Planca?

Planca.

So it means fair dodge now.

Talk about how you dodge a fair if it's a train or their turn styles that you have to

jump, things like that.

In the metro and the commuter trains that were back then turn styles.

The turn styles had a sensor, so if you just stretch your leg in you would reach the

sensor and it would open up and you would slide through.

Marcus Fienbouh didn't just dodge fairs himself and encourage others in Stockholm to do the

same.

He and his comrades at Planca also had a scheme to mitigate the risk of fair dodging.

We mainly did this by organizing a solidarity fund, so if you got caught and you got quite

hefty fine at the moment I think it's somewhere in the vicinity of $150.

The solidarity fund would pay this.

So this is a group you join where you're not going to pay for the transit that you ride,

but then you contribute to it's kind of like an insurance fund, right?

You contribute a little bit and if you get caught and get fined the fund will pay it for

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