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511: Between Firefights and Faith, Lessons From Ramadi to Recovery. With Ben Sledge.

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4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 201 minutes

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From the chaos of Ramadi to the pain of losing his best friend, Ben Sledge recounts combat, moral injury, and how faith and storytelling became his path to healing.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 511 with Echo Charles and me Jocker Willink. Good evening, Echo.

0:05.3

Good evening. I slipped out the back and sprinted around a corner where I ran smack dab into a concrete wall.

0:13.0

Hey, I screamed, pounding my fists against it. We have injured. We have injured. There was no response.

0:19.9

So I kept pounding and screaming

0:21.4

knowing time was short I was in an unprotected area and the Haji had our number

0:28.1

until the Air Force leveled the side of the mountain they were shooting from we would

0:33.3

take more casualties hey I choked out in an almost frightened sob. The fear was finally beginning

0:41.0

to grip me and my hands trembled. We are going to die. And that right there is an excerpt

0:51.9

from a book called Where Cowards Go to Die, which is written by a man by the name of Benjamin Sledge.

1:00.0

And Ben Sledge is a former army soldier who served both in Afghanistan and in Iraq and in Iraq.

1:07.2

He served in the Battle of Vermont.

1:09.6

And he spent most of his time in combat conducting

1:12.6

civil affairs and psychological operations, and if you don't know what those are, you're about to find out.

1:18.9

He's a recipient of the Bronze Star, two Army Commendation medals, the Purple Heart.

1:23.0

He's now a writer, a graphic designer, a web developer, a speaker, and a mental health specialists.

1:31.1

And it's an honor to have him here with us here tonight to share some of his experiences and lessons

1:36.8

learned. Ben, thanks for joining us, man. Thanks for having me. It's an honor. Yeah, we got connected

1:42.1

through the meetings that we are currently having for the ready first reunion. So the 1-1-A-D is having a reunion. And if you're listening to this and you were in Ramadi with the 1-1-A-D, whether you attach the 1-1-A-D, whether you showed up and you were doing some work or you're a, you have a family member was served there gold star family you are invited and if you want to join us there go to ramadi

2:07.6

reunion 20.com it's january 16th and 17th down in texas 20 26 it's the 20 it's been 20 years bro 20 years

2:15.5

i can't even believe it it It's, uh, I mean,

2:18.8

it feels like yesterday in a lot of ways. Yeah. It's really weird to jump on those calls and be talking

2:26.0

about, you know, what, what types of meals we're going to have and all this stuff. Because those,

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