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Kathy Wood, welcome to the show.

Oh, I'm happy to be here, Marty. Thank you for inviting me.

Well, thank you for coming. And I want to start off by complimenting you on forming an incredible team.

I'm personally good friends with the Yassine and David.

And to see them end up at Arc has been, it's made me very happy because they're two aces in the Bitcoin

space, their analysis and everything they've done that helped me better understand Bitcoin

has really helped me in my trajectory in this space and see them land at Arc and work

with you. It's been incredible. Oh, thank you. No, we we are the blessed ones, you know,

to have them. They're they're incredible. We have four four people now working on crypto broadly

and of course, Yassine and David really leading the charge on Bitcoin. So very blessed, very

blessed. So smart, so humble, so passionate about the space,

which is great. And with that in mind, I think one jumping off point I want to start this conversation

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