51 The Fouler Presence of John?
The History of England
David Crowther
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🗓️ 11 February 2012
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the History of England Episode 51, The Fowler Presence. |
| 0:21.4 | This week's book recommendation, given that we are now launching the career of Bad King |
| 0:25.3 | John is King John by W. L. Warren. Warren was one of those historians who sought to |
| 0:32.2 | some degree to rehabilitate John. He doesn't try and whitewash it but he points out the |
| 0:37.8 | good stuff he did and the mitigations for some of the bad stuff. Anything you want to |
| 0:43.0 | know about John is in there without the book being over long. |
| 0:47.8 | So this week we have to explain why Richard found war to be something of a pain in the |
| 0:51.7 | neck and imagine that we're cooks from Shalu and kill Richard the Lionheart so that we can |
| 0:57.1 | spend more time with his family in the form of Brother John. There are a number of versions |
| 1:03.3 | of Richard's death and I did a very quick rough survey to see which one was the most popular |
| 1:08.7 | version. Everyone agrees that he died at a place called Shalu Shabal, Nilemouge in |
| 1:14.8 | Aquitaine and everyone agrees that the castle wasn't worth the rough end of a pineapple. |
| 1:20.8 | That people disagree why Richard should have been there in the first place. |
| 1:26.6 | The one that heads the list in my most unscientificive surveys is the one where a treasure trove |
| 1:31.3 | was discovered at the place and Richard was arrogantly determined to get his hands on it. |
| 1:36.5 | So he arrived at the fateful castle of Shalu because the local Lord had refused to hand |
| 1:40.2 | it all over and Richard was having none of it in that kind of high-handed nobless or bleesh |
| 1:44.9 | way that he was most certainly capable of. It's worth noting that there are plenty of |
| 1:50.6 | academic historians Warren, for example, who say exactly the same thing. |
| 1:56.7 | Well instead of that, here's the story that seems to make most sense to me. Mainly because |
| 2:01.0 | the two historians I've spent most of my time following, Jillingham and Frank Barlow |
| 2:05.2 | happily agree on it. |
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