This is popular front, a podcast focus on the very niche and kind of geeky details of modern warfare with me Jake Hanrahan.

Today we're speaking to Christian Traibut.

He's an investigative journalist with the New York Times,

but it's probably better known for his work with Bellingat.

Christian is going to be speaking to us about open source investigation work.

He's going to explain to us how using simple tools available to everybody such as Google Earth,

he managed to work out how certain war crimes unfolded, how

massacres happened.

It's really interesting stuff.

And Christian is definitely one of the very best people in this field. If you like what we're doing at Popular Front, please

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What is the kind of work you do?

Maybe you can explain it, you know, you know, geolocation, all of that stuff, you know, what is it you do? I think it's very unique.

Basically, I am working in a, in, you could say it's almost like a new field called

open source investigation and sometimes it's called Ozint or open source intelligence.

And it's basically just using any kind of openly available information

that you can find on the web on the internet

and use it to answer a question.

And very often these questions are the basic questions of journalism,

who, what, where, and when.

And not even that much the question of why, because when you start answering the question of why,

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