509. Small Shoe Psychological Warfare (w/Jody Avirgan and Caleb Zeringue)
Fake the Nation
Headgum & Negin Farsad
4.4 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
This week on Fake the Nation, comedian and host Negin Farsad is joined by comedian Caleb Zeringue (Luigi: The Musical) and podcast host Jody Avirgan (This Day Pod) to discuss why men wear shoes that are bigger than their actual feet... but also, why Sora shut down. This podcast is a bird of many feathers because that's not all! They also talk about Democrats' Special Election wins, the No Kings rallies, and Trump's signature on bills. They also weigh in on YouTube and Meta's losses in court - the social media chickens have maybe come home to roost? So much to think about, enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | When you listen to Nobody Lists |
| 0:01.7 | to Paula Poundstone, the comedy podcast, you learn stuff. |
| 0:05.1 | I've been learning to throw a boomerang, |
| 0:07.4 | because this is the kind of thing that really gets the listeners engaged, you know. |
| 0:11.0 | Interviews with people who will make you smarter. |
| 0:13.7 | Does the amount that you learn protect you from cognitive decline? |
| 0:18.7 | Paula don't know. |
| 0:22.8 | Can't people just listen to the show? |
| 0:26.2 | Can't they just enjoy a delightful treehouse full of information? |
| 0:27.4 | I think I'm bleeding. |
| 0:29.5 | Join us and be a nobody. |
| 0:31.6 | Hello, hello. |
| 0:35.6 | This is Vig the Nation, a podcast about cultural trends, about politics, and about irritations and joys. |
| 0:38.0 | All of the irritations and joys of being alive in 2026. |
| 0:42.1 | I'm your host, Nagine Farsad, and full disclosure, I took a week off from news last week. |
| 0:47.4 | We had a bit of an evergreen episode or like a more of a like bigger, big picture episode. |
| 0:53.3 | So today we're going to dive back into the world. |
| 0:57.1 | We're going to play a little catch-up. We'll ask why do men wear shoes that are too big. |
| 1:01.9 | It is a question I've had on my mind for like 20 years. And Shora is Sora, the app is being shut down. What does that mean? We'll look at the no king's marches, special elections, and Trump's dumb signature. And finally, with recent legal trials, is this the beginning of social media getting their asses handed to them? I don't know. One can only hope, though I don't mean to muddy the panel's opinions on this. |
| 1:30.3 | We'll see what happens. |
| 1:31.8 | I'm so excited, by the way. |
| 1:33.6 | Speaking of today's panel, by today's panel, you've heard him on this show before. |
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