Welcome to a slob cams clean, the podcast. I am Danny K. White. I share my personal deslobification

process. As I figure out ways to keep my own home under control, I share the truth about

cleaning and organizing strategies that actually work in real life for real people, people who

don't love cleaning and organizing. Thanks for joining me today. This is podcast number 504.

And I think I'm going to call it hobbies, time to give versus stolen time. Maybe I'll call it that.

We'll see. Here's the thing. Those of us who struggle with clutter are interesting people who are interested in so many things.

If you've already gotten my children's book, you know, Winnie, the walrus, is us. She's us. She's interested in so many things. I wasn't going to use this as a way to advertise her,

but I am because she's adorable and you should go get my new children's book for every child in

your entire life. But she's interested in so many things. Things light her up. And the reason

things light her up is that she's us. We are the adults who grow up to have clutter. And it's not

because we're boring people. It's because we're interesting people. It's because we see things and we see

the beauty in things. We see the value in things. We see the potential in things. And we gather those

things because they're interesting to us, right?

We also, because stuff tends to be interesting to us, doing different exciting things

tends to be very interesting to us.

We love adventure.

We love hobbies.

We love, you know, I can't tell, it's so funny to me. I know.

I have had more than one person on my strategy sessions that I do with my Patreon members,

you know, here on the podcast. And y'all probably know better than I will because you've potentially listened to them more

recently than I recorded it. But like this conversation around a, I think it was like a spinning

wheel or something. And it was mentioned and I was like, what is that? That's interesting.

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