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502. “I Don’t Think the Country Is Turning Away From College.”

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🗓️ 5 May 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Enrollment is down for the first time in memory, and critics complain college is too expensive, too elitist, and too politicized. The economist Chris Paxson — who happens to be the president of Brown University — does not agree. (Part 3 of “Freakonomics Radio Goes Back to School.”)

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0:00.0

So Professor Dr. President Boston Fed Reserve chair Paxon, what the heck do we call you?

0:09.2

You can call me Chris, that's fine.

0:13.8

Chris Paxon is an economist first and foremost.

0:17.0

She does also sit on a few important boards, the Boston Federal Reserve and the Association

0:22.2

of American Universities.

0:24.2

And in her spare time, she is President of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island,

0:28.8

and the eight schools in the Ivy League.

0:31.3

But again, she is also an economist.

0:34.7

Being an economist in this role is really useful because, you know, what am I trying to

0:39.6

jump, trying to build an organization in collaboration with lots of other people?

0:44.8

Resource allocation is everything.

0:47.5

You're thinking on the margin, you're thinking about alternatives, you're trying to figure

0:51.1

out how you're going to get the biggest impact for every dollar that you spend.

0:56.3

These are kind of economics-y type questions.

0:59.6

We wanted to speak with Paxon because we thought she could answer a lot of our questions

1:03.4

about college generally.

1:05.7

This is the third episode in a series we're calling Freakonomics Radio Goes Back to School.

1:10.9

We have learned quite a bit so far.

1:12.9

We've learned that American higher education is particularly market-driven and therefore

1:17.4

has many of the best universities in the world, but that these top schools, including

1:23.0

Brown, are better at producing research than they are at moving students up the income

1:28.4

ladder.

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