I'm Jay Papazan and this is the One Thing, your weekly guide to the simple steps that lead to extraordinary results.

Hey there, One Thing, friends and family, our readers, our listeners. Thank you so much for being there every single week. And this week, you're in for a treat. I get to interview Dr. Robin Hanley-Defo, who insisted I just call her Robin on the interview. And in my mind, she's now Dr. Robin. But she is a behavioral psychologist. She's authored numerous books. She's written specifically about resiliency and

stress. And we dive in together and address all kinds of topics around resiliency and stress.

And some of the highlights I want you to listen for is the 90 second rule. How 90 seconds can save you,

I think it's six to seven years of discomfort. 90 second investment will get you's six to seven years of discomfort. Ninety second investment will get

you back six to seven years of discomfort. The win-then rule, right, which plays very much into our

one thing thinking and how to prioritize work in life, right? What's the difference between how we

show up at work and how we show up at home? Those are just a handful of the topics, but this was rich, it was real.

She's an amazing, amazing teacher, and she speaks to her topics with authority.

I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I enjoyed recording it with her.

All right, Robin, you're an expert on resilience, on stress. And when we think about our audience,

the achievers out there, maybe someone's listening to this on their way into work or on their

way to solve a problem from one of their customers, they struggle with juggling a lot of things

while trying to focus on their one thing. And I just feel like

if we can teach them something in the next half hour about how to recognize and build resilience

and how to decipher between good stress and bad stress, that would be a huge gift to them.

I would love to dive into that with you today.

So one of the big things I learned from your book is that resilience is something that we can develop.

So before we even walk into that, how do you define resilience? Do you have your own special definition?

Yes. The working definition I work with resilience is it's this idea about what are there sets of behaviors and habits that we can do to create our comebacks, our bounce back. It's recognizing

that it's an everyday practice of ways that we can show up and be able to navigate all the

different parts in our lives. The word resilience, like in the roots, isn't it like having to do

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