501 SelfWork: Cultural Humility: What It Takes To Walk in Someone Else's Shoes
The SelfWork Podcast
Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Margaret focuses today on the vital importance of what’s termed “cultural humility” as she responds to a listener voicemail, pointing out that as she’s a white person, her advice comes from a place of privilege in the US.
Do you have to have walked in someone else’s shoes, carried the same load as they have, lived a life very similar to theirs – to truly understand them? Or to offer something helpful to them?
I received a very open and honest voicemail this week that addresses this question. What follows is also a discussion of the difference between cultural competence and cultural humility.
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| 0:00.0 | This is self-work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford. |
| 0:10.3 | At self-work, we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them, |
| 0:15.6 | whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment. |
| 0:21.4 | Ten years ago, I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you who might already be |
| 0:26.1 | knowledgeable about mental health treatment, but also to those of you who might say you'd never |
| 0:31.2 | darken the door of a therapist. And yet, you are here. I'll answer your questions while I invite |
| 0:37.0 | you to take a few minutes for |
| 0:38.8 | your own self-work. Now, for any of you who've listened to self-work for a while, you can |
| 0:46.1 | probably guess my preference, and in many ways I've already said it. I don't think you |
| 0:50.2 | necessarily have to choose one or the other. You could take courses and at becoming culturally competent. |
| 0:56.5 | But then along with that learning, realize that no course can help you understand a culture. |
| 1:02.0 | Completely. |
| 1:02.4 | That can take years. |
| 1:03.5 | It's nuanced. |
| 1:05.5 | Welcome to this week's edition of Self-Work. |
| 1:09.3 | I'm going to focus today on the vital importance of what's termed |
| 1:13.4 | cultural humility as I respond to a listener voicemail. In that voicemail, the listener pointed out |
| 1:20.5 | that as I'm a white person, that my advice comes from a place of privilege. What may surprise |
| 1:26.8 | you, but in many ways I hope not, |
| 1:28.8 | I don't disagree with this young woman's feedback to me. |
| 1:31.9 | Of course, my perspective is limited by my experience of life. |
| 1:36.1 | Although I've worked with many different kinds of people |
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