So, guys, Derek, moreplace, morningates.com.

Today we're going to be reacting to this clip from Fouad Abiyadh's podcast that he did with

Ian, Nick Walker, Justin Shire.

It's basically a ensemble of top IFBBB Pro Olympian level bodybuilders and their unique insights

into what happens at the top of the sport.

I don't really know of another place where you can get the kind of insight on, I don't know,

diet, training, et cetera, that you get on his channel.

You know, some of the drug use stuff is a lot more cursory as well as the health, you know,

I don't know, preventative medicine kind of stuff because it's more

so from a, you know, what anecdotes and things they've done over the years. And it's definitely

worthwhile to listen to that part too as well. But a lot of these guys kind of just do what their

coaches suggest them do. Some of them are more self-taught. But ultimately they are, you know,

one of the only sources of information i'm aware of who actually

has like the firsthand experience of like using shit what it did to them and what you know they do at a

top level um just like shooting the shit in terms of you know having a bit more uncensored approach to discussion of, you know,

IFBB Pro activities and whatnot. So anyways, in this part, they talk about genetic response and testosterone levels,

especially in response to a certain dose of test, which I thought was interesting because it does

really highlight genetic variability and sort of gets into the hyper responder discussion and give some unique insight into like what is a high or low dose, so to speak.

So I'm going to play it from here.

We're talking about my test levels and how fucking low they were.

And then Guy told a story about him taking, I forget how much he was taking like six 700 milligrams of tests or something like

that but his test levels were like 300 so it's like the same thing with guys who are like i don't know

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