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Coaching for Leaders

500: Four Habits That Derail Listening, with Oscar Trimboli

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Oscar Trimboli: Deep Listening Oscar is a mentor, coach, speaker, and author. He was a director at Microsoft for over a decade and headed up the MS Office division in Australia. Today, Oscar works with leadership teams and their organizations on the importance of clarity to create change, how to embrace the digital economy, and the role values play in the achievement of your purpose. He is the author of Deep Listening: Impact Beyond Words*. In this conversation, Oscar details the four habits that tend to derail our listening. We explore the patterns and behaviors of each habit, and how we can work to do better. Plus, Oscar invites us to notice feelings instead of words — as well as HOW people are saying things, not just WHAT they are saying. Key Points Four habits that derail listening: Dramatic Listener They get engrossed in the emotion and want to become an actor in it. Dramatic listeners tend to get caught up in the problem so much so that they don’t hear the idea or the solution. They may come away from an interaction feeling like they’ve really connected when in fact, they haven’t. Interrupting Listener We notice these people the most. They are coming from a place of concern and tend to listen to fix and solve the problem. They finish sentences wrongly and many listen for places to jump in as much as they are listening for the words. Lost Listener These listeners tend to zone out and appear not present. Lost listeners may be focused on something else. Technology devices have the potential to distract them substantially. Shrewd Listener These listeners are solving the current problem and also the next problem. They may create problems in their own mind that aren’t even what speaker said. They are smart enough not to interrupt, and often appear very engaged, but are not necessarily listening. Resources Mentioned Oscar’s Listening Quiz Deep Listening: Impact Beyond Words* by Oscar Trimboli The Four Villains of Listening (Deep Listening podcast) Book Notes Download my highlights from Deep Listening in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes The Way to Have Conversations That Matter, with Celeste Headlee (episode 344) Get Better at Deep Listening, with Oscar Trimboli (episode 408) The Way to Be More Coach-Like, with Michael Bungay Stanier (episode 458) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic.

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0:00.0

We all want to listen well and we all fall short. On this episode, Oscar Trimboli returns to show us the four habits that derail our listening and how we can all do better.

0:12.0

This is Coaching for Leaders, episode 500.

0:15.4

Produced by Innovate Learning,

0:18.8

Maximizing Human Potential. potential. host Dave Stahofiac. Leaders aren't born. They're made. And this weekly show helps

0:36.5

you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. Of course so much of conversation is about listening.

0:46.0

Listening is a skill so many of us have wanted to improve on it as a skill many of us believe we are at least decent at if not

0:54.4

above average and it is so important for leadership the ability to listen and yet

1:00.6

it is a struggle also for so many of us.

1:03.5

Today I'm so glad to welcome back to the show,

1:06.5

someone who is just an expert in listening

1:09.2

is going to help us to derail some of the four habits that tend to keep us from listening well.

1:16.2

Glad to welcome back to the show Oscar Trumboli.

1:19.2

Oscar is a mentor, coach, speaker, and author. He was a director at Microsoft for over a decade and

1:25.2

headed up the MS Office Division in Australia. Today he works with leadership teams and

1:30.5

their organizations on the importance of clarity to create change, how to embrace the digital

1:36.0

economy and the role values play in the achievement of your purpose.

1:40.4

He is the author of the book Deep Listening Impact Beyond Words.

1:44.7

Oscar so glad to have you back on the show.

1:47.8

G'd a day of my I'm excited to

1:51.3

spend a little bit more time going a little bit deeper into what we started off a year ago.

1:57.0

And it's been really joyful to have people from many, many different parts of the world who are fans of yours

2:06.0

asking questions to go a little bit deeper on listening.

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