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Voxology

500 Episodes, Two Christianities, and Clarifying the Center of Jesus

Voxology

Voxology

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Celebrating 500 episodes and nearly 10 years of bold conversations, Mike and Tim pause to reflect on the Voxology journey and address a growing burden: the deepening divide between competing versions of Christianity in American culture.

This milestone episode explores how one branch of Christianity has co-opted the language of Jesus to justify nationalism, violence, and power, while another remains rooted in the cruciform way of Jesus—marked by humility, sacrifice, and enemy-love.

Mike and Tim unpack why this distinction matters now more than ever, emphasizing the urgent need to return to the center—Christ himself—and discern truth from distortion. Through heartfelt lament, cultural critique, and biblical exploration, this conversation brings clarity, challenge, and hope for a faith community seeking to resist cultural idolatry and embody the real Jesus in these confusing times.

Key Takeaways: • Two Competing Christianities – Recognizing that not every representation of "Christian" is congruent with the life and teachings of Jesus. • The Way of the Cross vs. the Way of Power – Understanding that the cruciform path of Jesus stands in direct opposition to nationalism, triumphalism, and coercion. • Discerning the Center – How a return to the teachings of Jesus—particularly the Sermon on the Mount—can help us evaluate what is truly Christian in today's landscape. • Calling Out Distortion Without Condemnation – Learning to critique false gospels and ideologies without falling into gatekeeping or contempt. • What It Means to Be the Church Now – A renewed call for the church to serve as a prophetic, diverse, justice-oriented community amidst cultural confusion.

Resources Mentioned: • Non-ference Gathering (July 31–August 2 in Nashville) – Email hello@voxpodcast.com with subject line "Nonference" for info. • Daniel 7 and Mark 8-10 – Crucial texts exploring Jesus's clashes with power and his redefining of greatness and Messiahship. • The Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5–7; referenced as the central teaching text for Christian formation. • Dallas Willard – "I trust Jesus with a whip, but I don't trust myself," a quote reflecting humility in social critique. • Facebook Private Group – Email to request an invite to our discussion space. • Philippians 2 – Preview of next episode's theme on cruciformity.

Guest Highlights: No outside guests this episode, but deep gratitude expressed for past contributors, supporters, and community members—including Andy Lara, Kevin Ashleman, Brenda, Bonnie, and countless others who have shaped Voxology through the years.

500 episodes in, the road's been long, vulnerable, transformative, and often messy. But the mission remains: to question boldly, love recklessly, and follow Jesus faithfully—even when it's unpopular or misunderstood.

Join us on the journey—and if you're still listening after 70+ minutes, you're a real one.

Subscribe, share your thoughts, join the private Facebook group, and follow us @voxologypodcast for continued conversations.

As always, we would love your questions, doubts, and feedback. Email us at hello@voxpodcast.com. Let's keep wrestling together.

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Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike: @mikeerre

As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

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Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a very bittersweet Voxology podcast for us today.

0:14.1

Tim, Tim's decided to bring his full amount of cynicism and skepticism to the table.

0:19.7

And I'm like, if you've been diluting

0:22.8

it thus far, I have no idea what the unfiltered, unfiltered timness is. So we all, we're all

0:29.1

agreeing that Tim is welcome to the table in all of his timness or timnity, um, if we want to call

0:35.9

it that. So welcome the full Tim.

0:39.6

Also, Tim called earlier this weekend reminded me because I don't know.

0:46.9

This is our 500th episode.

0:48.9

And so yay, yay us.

0:51.8

But there is, and there are like really big thank yous because this is we're

0:59.2

going on 10 years on this thing before everybody had a podcast we were podcasting and it was because

1:06.1

of a guy named Andy laura who had like great cultural awareness insight and just was a great producer slash co-host

1:17.7

for years and years and years who got this sucker started.

1:22.7

People have been supporting this community financially for years and years and years, which is

1:29.5

mind-blowing to me and listening and dialoguing, went through a period of time where a guy

1:37.4

named Kevin Ashleman, who was in Ohio with me.

1:41.3

Kevin number two.

1:42.2

Kevin number two.

1:43.2

Kevin number one, you know who he is. We're grateful for him. It's our mutual friend. Kevin number two. Kevin number two. Kevin number one, you know who he is.

1:45.0

We're grateful for him.

1:45.9

It's our mutual friend.

1:47.2

Kevin number two, amazing.

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