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Hello and welcome to Tracy Allaway, Bloomberg markets? So, Tracy, remember our episode a few weeks ago with Emmanuel Derman, the Quant guy who wrote

a, who used to work at Goldman Sachs, the physicist.

I do indeed. I love that episode. Is he on again?

No, not quite, but he has a new book out. It's a textbook on modeling options. And it's a textbook on modeling options.

And it's a textbook, so it's like massively over my head.

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