Hey, it's Glenn Thrush, Chief Political Correspondent with Politico, and I'm here today with

Barney Frank, who's making the rounds, of course, with his new book, Frank. It was an interesting and wide-ranging discussion.

We talked about a lot of things.

And at the very end, after we'd shut off the mics,

we started talking about the New York Times review of his book,

and he was getting really agitated.

And that was when he gaveled us back into session

and said he wanted to turn the mics back on

and talk a little bit about Frank Bruni. Enjoy. So, which one of, you know, you were obviously

a newspaper reader from an early age and making a Jewish household, like my folks were from

Brooklyn. There was like a five newspaper. Yeah.

They had, they read PM and all the, all the famous ones. The old Dolly Schiff, New York Post,

the liberal paper. Is that how you got your interest in this stuff? I remember still on a Saturday

night, we would stop and get the, what, News Mirror, Journal American, et cetera.

New York Times didn't come out into that night.

Yeah, we read, I read those papers on Sunday for the comics.

The Journal American, I remember, the Hearst paper was the only one that had colored comics on Saturday and Sunday.

But the New York Post was, as I say in the book, that there was the nearest thing we were pretty secular that we had to a Bible.

The Post itself, people like James Wexor, Murray Kempton, who was a great columnist William

Lee Shannon.

I got the chance at the very beginning of my career to work with Kempton and when I was at

Newsday.

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