#50: John Cooper
The BetterLife Podcast: Wealth | Real Estate Investing | Life
Brandon Turner and Cam Cathcart
4.8 • 767 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2024
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Summary
John Cooper is the lead singer and founding member of Skillet, one of the best-selling Christian rock groups of all time. He’s also a podcaster and author whose latest book is called “Wimpy, Weak, and Woke: How Truth Can Save America from Utopian Destruction.”
John sits down with Brandon to talk about the band’s rise; raising a family while touring the world with his band; how he defines wokeness and why he feels compelled to speak out against it now; and his alternate vision for a brighter future.
He also talks about:
- His personal religious journey in the wake of his mother passing away from cancer
- Learning to treat his music career like a business
- How he and his wife divide responsibilities and stay in their lanes
- Why he warns Christian families not to send their kids to public school
- The Marxist origins of Critical Race Theory (CRT)
- The Black Lives Matter riots in his hometown of Kenosha, Wisconsin
- Woke ideology infiltrating Chrstian church leadership
- Why he believes more people than ever will be born again as Christians in 2024
Books Mentioned:
- The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
- The Unshakeable Kingdom and the Unchanging Person by E. Stanley Jones
- A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell
- Red Rising by Pierce Brown
Connect with John:
- Buy his book the only place it’s available: https://johnlcooper.com/
- Hawk and Hatchet beard products
- His weekly podcast, Cooper Stuff
John’s charitable cause (100% of ad revenue donated here)
- Samaritan’s Purse, which provides disaster relief and humanitarian aid to people in physical need
Show Sponsor
- Podcast Pointman, the podcast agency that produces this show. Watch the free masterclass, 5 Ways to Grow Your Show, here
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Now we gotta stand up for what we believe. |
| 0:05.0 | That's why all of a sudden playing in Skillet is no longer being the nice guy, being the positive. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm still saying the positive message, which is love your neighbor and don't burn their house down. |
| 0:16.0 | It's the same message. |
| 0:17.0 | But now it looks like anger and hate because the world has lost its freaking mind. |
| 0:27.3 | Welcome to A Better Life with Brandon Turner. That is me, where world-class guests |
| 0:32.1 | share their wisdom on building a better life. Join me as we explore the habits, the actions, |
| 0:36.6 | and the beliefs that have guided their journey |
| 0:38.7 | with the aim of helping you apply those lessons to your own. John Cooper, welcome to the show, man. |
| 0:59.5 | What's up? It's good to chat with you, man. |
| 1:01.7 | Yeah, I'm excited about this, man. |
| 1:03.1 | Like, a long time coming. I've been listening to you for many, many, many years. |
| 1:06.8 | So I know you as the frontman, the bassist, bassist. Am I saying that right? That's right. Not a bassist. Yeah, not bassist. That's a, that's a, that's a fisherman or something. All right. Basist. Spel the same. Spel this. B-A-S-S-S-B-A-S-S-Bass and bassist. Okay. So the front man, the bassist of the, and frontman of Skillet, which is arguably one of, if not the biggest Christian rock bands and which is one of the biggest rock bands is period. |
| 1:33.3 | Two billion streams. I know at least your YouTube videos have ridiculous number of downloads. Songs like Monster, Awaken Alive, and there's a billion others I won't read. I know you is an author of several books, including the new one. |
| 1:45.7 | I want to get this total, this right. |
| 1:47.8 | Wimpy, weak, and woke, how truth can save America from utopian destruction, which I'm |
| 1:52.4 | excited to talk about that today. |
| 1:53.8 | I know you've done some graphic novels. |
| 1:55.8 | You're an unapologetic podcaster, millions of downloads. |
| 1:59.6 | And then somehow you fit in time to be a husband |
| 2:01.3 | and father. And you're the only rock star I know that sows his own clothes. That's right? |
| 2:05.2 | Now that's true. That's true. I do. That's awesome. Yes. Not like all of my clothes or anything, |
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