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People I (Mostly) Admire

50. Edward Miguel on Collecting Economic Data by Canoe and Correlating Conflict with Rainfall

People I (Mostly) Admire

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4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

He’s a pioneer of using randomized control experiments in economics — studying the long-term benefits of a $1 health intervention in Africa. Steve asks Edward, a Berkeley professor, about Africa’s long-term economic prospects, and how a parking-ticket-scandal in New York City led to a major finding on corruption around the world.

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0:00.0

One thing I've learned over my career as an academic economist is that it's hard to

0:10.4

do good research.

0:11.9

I started out hoping to do important research, but I figured out quickly how I wasn't

0:16.9

doing good at important stuff.

0:18.6

So I settled for at least doing research that was interesting.

0:21.4

I've always admired economists to do important work, even if it's boring.

0:26.0

But the economists I admire the most are the ones who manage to do work that is both

0:30.2

interesting and important.

0:32.9

There are only a handful of those folks, and my guest today, Ted Miguel, is right at

0:37.4

the top of that list.

0:39.9

This kind of human capital investment could actually help break the intergenerational

0:43.9

transmission of poverty.

0:49.2

Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levin.

0:55.4

Edward Miguel, his friend's calm Ted, was an undergrad at MIT and did his PhD in economics

1:01.3

at Harvard, working with Nobel Prize winner Michael Kramer.

1:04.6

He spent the last 20 years in the economics department at the University of California

1:08.8

at Berkeley.

1:09.8

Unfortunately, my many attempts to convince him to come to the University of Chicago, they

1:13.8

all failed.

1:14.8

Ted has been one of the pioneers in bringing large-scale randomized experiments into economics,

1:19.9

and he's also remarkably creative in exploiting what economists call natural experiments.

1:25.8

My only concern today is that Ted can be quite serious and earnest.

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