What is up podcast listeners?

It is Steven Hussie coming at you here with an episode that is a bit longer than normal

but couldn't be more timely and crucial on the topic of masculinity and the silence

struggled at so many men face to speak about how they really feel to open up to emotionally

communicate their vulnerability and it's such an important marker of where Matthew's

thinking is on this topic and where we are as a company, where we're moving as a company

and bridging the gap between men and women so there's so much here I know you're going

to get a huge amount of value out of this and Matt begins with a story of a retreat he

went on recently that really expanded and evolved his thinking on this topic so check

it out I know you're going to love it.

I recently as many of you know from following me on Instagram or Facebook went to Poland

with a very small group of amazing men to do the Wim Hof ice retreat.

For those of you that don't know Wim Hof is a guy who I guess has become a kind of

spiritual leader in recent times but has been known over a longer period of time for

being the ice man this guy who seems to do superhuman feats of running barefoot half

marathon spending up to close to two hours submerged in ice the longest under ice swim

he has done things that you or I would not do because we would die and because we don't

want to.

He has this retreat in Poland where you go and you do some of these crazy seemingly superhuman

things for yourself. I didn't want to go on this trip I was invited by my friend Lewis

Hous and I was so afraid of it that I decided if I'm this scared it might be something interesting

for me to do. What ensued was exactly what I thought it would be and maybe worse. We ended

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