5 - Who Do You Believe In?

You Didn't See Nothin

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🗓️ 22 February 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The Black community becomes deeply divided over some of its leaders supporting the family of the attacker.

Credits

Host: Yohance Lacour

Producers: Bill Healy, Dana Brozost-Kelleher, Erisa Apantaku, Sarah Geis

Sound Design/Mixing and Music Supervision: Steven Jackson and Phil Dmochowski at the Audio Non-Visual Company

Original Music: Taka Yasuzawa

Executive Producers: Alison Flowers and Jamie Kalven (Invisible Institute) and Josh Bloch (USG Audio)

Production Support: Jennifer Sears and Josh Laolagi

Fact-checking: Angely Mercado

Key Art: Kenneth L. Copeland, Jr.

Special Thanks: Brother Randy Evans, Steve Bogira, the family of Joe Lattimore, Mindy Pugh and The Progressive Community Church Archives at the Illinois Institute of Technology, and Bob Berlin

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0:00.0	So here's what happened last episode.
0:04.0	L' Frankie's trial is coming up, but there's a problem.
0:09.0	Chicago Police search for a missing witness in the Leonard Clark beating case.
0:13.0	Where is Richard DeSantis?
0:15.0	Then another key witness is murder.
0:18.0	Michael Cutler was killed in what police say was a holdup.
0:22.0	Lots of folks aren't buying it.
0:24.0	His family goes on Dateline.
0:26.0	You think he was killed to keep him from testifying?
0:28.0	In my heart, I believed that, yeah.
0:31.0	The judge says the same. I felt, you know the judge says the same I felt you know that he was hit and the prosecutors too
0:38.4	I just to this day fight it hard to believe that that's just a coincidence
0:42.4	but little Frankie's trial must go on.
0:46.7	This ain't an episode of Law and Order, so I'm going to tell you what happened from the jump.
0:59.0	Frankie Caruso's charge with attempted murder, aggravated battery, and a hate crime.
1:05.3	He shows up at trial in a suit about three sizes too big, makes him look like a little kid.
1:10.9	Defense attorneys tried to portray Caruso as a good boy who attended
1:14.7	church and even crossed racial lines in donating food baskets to the poor.
1:19.2	There's this journalist Steve Bogera wrote a book called Courtroom 302.
1:26.8	He says that during breaks, Frankie's mom is carrying a rosary, and Frankie's dad is reading from the Bible and passing out homemade cookies.
1:38.0	All PR bullshit.
1:40.0	That's Dan Lekalo, the judge.
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