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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the Busy Mom Podcast. Today is Wednesday.

October 26th, and I am so glad that you've joined us today. My friendly Sipirsen is back

on the show with me today. Hey Lisa. Hey. So we're sitting here with our guys, and we haven't

actually been together in the same room for like, I don't know how many years, and we can't

stop talking. And we're never doing anything done. We can't stop laughing. I just, okay,

I'm not sure. And all of the things that we've been through in the last 25 years, and just

raising children and watching kind of what works and what doesn't. And legalism inside of the

church and now, you know, parenting styles and all the things that we thought we're going to

merit it matter when we were 18 that turns out they didn't really matter at all. And so we

could do this. We should have the guys on. That'd be actually, I know that would be a hoot and hollering.

So they can hear them in the background because they're on the road. It's going to be interesting

to see if we can get anything done today. But I want to, I'm going to try really hard to keep

us on track. Okay. Because I want to talk about simple hospitality. You know, you have a passion

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