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Missing America

5. Sectarianism

Missing America

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What happens when tribalism crosses into religion? In America, Donald Trump favors his evangelical Christian base, demonizes Muslim-Americans, and stokes fear of “Radical Islam.” That’s fueled a global trend embraced by other sectarian strongmen - like India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has pursued a Hindu nationalist agenda at the expense of Muslims. Host Ben Rhodes talks to investigative journalist Rana Ayyub, who went undercover and exposed Modi’s tactics to turn Indians against one another. For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/missingamerica.

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0:00.0

Winter 2015, at the Obama White House, we were at the height of the fight against ISIS.

0:06.8

The first round of Jordanian air strikes against ISIS in Syria is now underway.

0:13.1

US warplanes, as you would expect, are flying alongside in support of the Jordanians, the

0:19.9

US-

0:20.4

But the Republican Party in an awkward position.

0:23.4

Of course they wanted to label Obama as weak, but they didn't want to argue for a bigger

0:27.2

war with American troops on the ground.

0:30.7

They knew Americans wanted to be tough on terrorism, but they also knew Americans didn't want

0:34.6

another Iraq war.

0:36.9

So instead of attacking our air strikes, they attacked the way that we talked about them,

0:42.0

insisting that we call our counter-ISIS campaign a global war against radical Islam.

0:50.6

That's a term we never put in Obama's speeches.

0:53.1

The fact Republicans took every opportunity to point out.

0:55.9

Last month, President Obama came under fire for referring to violent extremism without

1:01.6

any mention of Islam.

1:03.1

Here's what I really do have a problem with.

1:05.5

Our President will not call this radical Islam.

1:08.0

That won't even say the word jihad.

1:10.0

Won't even say the word radical Islamic terrorism.

1:13.2

It was a cynical, dangerous move.

1:16.7

Time and again, we explain terrorists like ISIS want us to frame our conflicts as a war

1:21.4

on Islam.

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