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The Big Picture

5. Nothing Is Over | Do We Get to Win This Time?

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In the early 1980s, as America is grappling with the fallout of Vietnam, a troubled big-screen vet named John Rambo launches an unlikely movie franchise—and leads a wave of make-believe soldiers who are ready to fight the war all over again. Other films we talk about in this episode include ‘First Blood’ (1982), ‘Uncommon Valor’ (1983), ‘Missing in Action’ (1984), and ‘Rambo: First Blood Part II’ (1985). Host: Brian Raftery Producers: Devon Manze, Mike Wargon, Amanda Dobbins, and Vikram Patel Sound Design: Bobby Wagner Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.8

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0:07.4

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0:12.1

most iconic goals ever scored in the tournament.

0:14.9

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0:17.9

Or maybe, like me, you just can't get enough of pop culture history.

0:21.8

If that's the case, check out just like us, a deep dive into the tabloid magazine era.

0:27.2

Not quite sick of my voice yet?

0:29.0

While in Gene and Roger, I dive into the careers and legacies of legendary movie critics

0:32.9

Siskel and Ebert, two thumbs up for shameless self-promotion.

0:36.8

Thanks for listening.

0:43.3

To help understand why the Vietnam War and Vietnam movies dominated the 80s, we need to spend

0:49.4

one last moment in the 70s.

0:52.3

Specifically, the moment in early 1979, when a veteran named Jan Scruggs walked into

0:57.6

a movie theater in suburban Maryland.

1:02.4

Scruggs have been a teenager when he joined the army and headed to Vietnam.

1:06.6

Not long after arriving, in May 1969, he was injured by shrapnel from a rocket propelled

1:12.0

grenade.

1:13.3

Scruggs found himself under a tree, bleeding to death.

1:16.8

His arm so damaged, he couldn't fire his gun.

1:19.8

You know, I'm losing consciousness, and I'm looking down and seeing your body with

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