Hello and welcome. This is a special breaking news edition of prosecuting Donald Trump.

I'm here with my friend Mary McCord to cover this as much as we can and give you our insight into what we know and what we expect at this point is going to happen.

Hello, Mary. It's nice to see you after a whole day.

Exactly. We had planned when we recorded this week's podcast that we would do an emergency edition when there was a verdict.

We just didn't expect to be quite this fast.

Well, this was an astonishing moment in New York Tuesday afternoon, which is when we are talking to you.

A jury of nine people, six men and three women rejected Donald Trump's defense that he did not defame and did not sexually assault Eugene Carroll.

They found four of the plaintiff unanimously and they did so in two and a half hours.

That's a short time, Mary. You and I have tried a lot of cases and I can tell you I have never had a criminal verdict in that time.

It's not all that surprising to me, though, because you know, juries do listen to the evidence.

And when you have a good attend of jury, they aren't deciding things beforehand, but they obviously are listening and they can, once they get into the jury room, determine, you know what, we maybe are all in accord.

So I wasn't that surprised that it was quick, but I didn't, what was your reaction?

Well, I guess, you know, I thought they might at least take the rest of the day because they didn't even have the entire day.

They had only the day after the judge read the jury instructions, which takes a while takes sometimes.

I don't know how long it took today, but oftentimes in my criminal cases, it would take an hour to do jury instructions.

They have to retire to the jury room. They have to elect a four person.

You know, they have to start talking about the evidence. And then in this case, they had to go through and answer, you know, up to 10 questions. Now they got to skip one because they answered, you know, the second one in an affirmative way.

So they got to skip one, but they have to work their way through the jury room.

So I was really guessing tomorrow, and I like you other than maybe some misdemeanor trials when I first became a prosecutor.

I don't think I ever had a verdict this fast and certainly not in one of the sex offense cases that I prosecuted.

Yeah. So let's break down a little bit first what happened. And then we'll talk about what it means, what its implications are, and then talk about what kind of appeals Donald Trump might have.

And also just remember, this is one of two cases that Eugene Carroll has against Donald Trump.

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