This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity. This is synchrony. This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

This is synchronicity.

My guest this week is Martin Ball.

This is a fun conversation you're about to hear.

And primarily for me, at least, because

when I have differing points of perspective on a lot of different things. And I think if

you dig Martin of his work, where there is on this podcast page and actual podcast

episode, you'll you'll see that we have some differing viewpoints, although a lot of viewpoints

that I think ultimately are quite similar.

So you'll hear a kind of a healthy debate about the nature of reality, non-duality, what's

objectively real, what's objectively real, what's tangibly real, the euneness of kind of religious

or ritualistic or magical or spiritual modalities

I'm advocating for, as you can imagine, versus they're just not being necessary and potentially

harmful. So there's a really nice debate that goes through. I think it's like halfway through.

I know it's kind of a long one, but it's interesting for me at least to have these types of conversations, not because I'm trying to

continue anyone of anything, but to flesh out my own beliefs and abilities that may be enmeshed

in something that I can just take for granted. And to get them out in work, it's always not as pretty fun sometimes.

It's a fun thing to do.

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