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Pints With Aquinas

5 Hours Investigating the Strongest Miracle Evidence for Catholicism (Ethan Muse) | Ep. 581

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.87.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 304 minutes

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Summary

Ethan Muse is here to make watertight arguments for how the Marian apparitions of Fatima, the stigmata of Padre Pio, and the Lanciano Eucharistic miracle, each naturalistically inexplicable, collectively vindicate the core doctrines of Catholicism, such that rejecting all of them as fraud, coincidence, or demonic deception becomes increasingly implausible. Ep. 581 Theotokos Rosaries are available here: https://dwplus.shop/TheotokosRosaries - - - 📚 Resources Mentioned: Ethan Muse on Substack: https://substack.com/@ethanmuse Ethan Muse Padre Pio Substack: https://substack.com/@ethanmuse/p-174400229 St. Beluga: https://www.saintbeluga.org/our-lady-of-fatima-queen-of-the-heavens - - - Today’s Sponsors: Shopify - Sign up for your $1-per-month trial and start selling today at https://Shopify.com/pints Hallow - Deepen your personal relationship with God today. Visit https://hallow.com/MattFradd to get 3 months free. Catholic Match - Download the app or head to https://CatholicMatch.com and find your forever. St. Paul Center - Share your faith with others this Easter Season by joining the Easter Accompaniment Challenge. Sign up and become a member today at https://stpaulcenter.com/pints Charity Mobile - Visit https://charitymobile.com/MATTFRADD to get started. Free Phone offer with code MATTFRADD PreBorn! - Make a difference for generations to come. Donate securely online at https://preborn.com/PINTS or dial #250 keyword 'BABY' - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So in this kind of like clickbait age, I don't know, people I think are maybe justifiably

0:05.1

really skeptical before somebody talks about miracles.

0:08.7

The vast majority of claims about miracles are false, which is not unexpected.

0:14.0

There's a lot of incentive to invent miracle stories.

0:18.1

I want to get on to whether or not miracles could be demonic deceptions.

0:22.6

In addition to proving that something is naturalistically inexplicable, we also need to use spiritual discernment

0:26.6

to preclude a demonic explanation. It's entirely reasonable to think that maybe demons are involved.

0:33.6

I want you to address those people who are impressed somewhat by what you've laid out today, but because they have, you know, issues with Catholic doctrine, they can't bring themselves to accept it. Tell me how that's possible and make it sound plausible. You're going to have to say it five more times for the rest of my Eucharistic miracles. Then you're going to have to say it for all the Padre Pio stuff we just talked about. Then you're going to have to say it for Lucia. then you're going to have to say it about wards. Then you're going to say it about Guadalupe. And I'm going to continue going all day long. And how many of these are you willing to pause it? The entire virtue of faith is God saying, I've proven to you that it is me. So it's reasonable for you to believe that I am speaking. These are the miracles that prove it. So we have to talk about why the two of us are dressed up.

1:18.6

Yes.

1:19.6

Well, both of our friend Cameron Bertuzi decided to have a fundraiser for me because, I mean,

1:26.1

I was getting a lot of comments about my

1:27.8

presentation in my previous videos. And so he, he wanted to help. That's what happens when

1:33.4

you're as good a debater as you are. People can't attack the substance, so they have to attack

1:38.0

your presentation. Now they can attack neither. Why my dad's happy. Okay, good. Well, it's really good to be with you. It's good to

1:45.8

hang out with you this morning. And I know before we get into this ginormous episode, we plan on

1:50.7

doing on miracles, which I'm really excited about. Just wanted to ask you, uh, maybe briefly,

1:56.2

how you became Catholic and when you became Catholic for those at home. Because when we were

2:00.1

talking this morning, I was, I was surprised to realize you're a convert. Yeah, yeah. So I was raised Protestant.

2:06.0

My family was Baptist, but really it was more like a sort of non-denominational Christianity.

2:10.5

And I wasn't really taught much about theology and certainly not like the reasons why we believed

2:15.7

what we believed. But when I was younger, I was really zealous about it, and I'm a Sunday school graduate. Like I wanted to be a pastor. But I really, you know, went through that new atheist phase when I was a teenager, and I sort of fell away. And I just couldn't see a rational justification for believing that, you know, Christianity was true, and then for even believing that God existed.

2:36.0

And so I became an atheist for a long time. Now, I still had, like, a religiosity while I was an atheist.

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