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The Rest Is Classified

5. CIA vs the Taliban: Bin Laden's Trojan Horse (Ep 2)

The Rest Is Classified

Goalhanger

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4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Mazar i-Sharif has fallen without much of a fight. The Taliban's grip on Afghanistan is looking all the more shaky. It seems as if the American policy to work with the warlords is paying dividends. Enemy fighters are surrendering to them. But is it all too rosy? In the centre of Mazar i-Sharif, the Americans take 400 Al-Qaeda captives to Qala-i-Jangi, the Fort of War. They believe they have surrendered. But all is not as it seems... Listen as David McCloskey and Gordon Corera discuss the first CIA teams in Afghanistan in the days after 9/11. Further Reading: First Casualty: The Untold Story of the CIA Mission to Avenge 9/11 by Toby Harnden - buy it here. Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.nordvpn.com/restisclassified It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Editor: Vasco Andrade Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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When Aller had made the rest of the world, he saw that there was a lot of rubbish left over,

1:16.2

bits and pieces and things that did not fit anywhere else.

1:20.1

He collected them all together and then threw them down onto the earth.

1:21.6

That was Afghanistan.

1:27.2

I'm Gordon Carrera and that's a quote from Ahmad Rashid, the journalist, in his account of Afghanistan,

1:32.3

recounting a folk tale about the creation of this country where our episode is set.

1:34.1

Well, welcome to the rest is classified.

1:35.2

I'm David McCloskey.

1:41.4

And we're telling the story, Gordon, of the first CIA team that was sent into Afghanistan,

1:45.7

this country of bits and pieces, went behind enemy lines,

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