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5/8: Lincoln's Peace: The Struggle to End the American Civil War Hardcover – Illustrated, March 18, 2025 by Michael Vorenberg https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Peace-Struggle-American-Civil/dp/1524733172 We set out on the James River, March 25, 1865,

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🗓️ 3 May 2025

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5/8: Lincoln's Peace: The Struggle to End the American Civil War Hardcover – Illustrated, March 18, 2025 
by  Michael Vorenberg


1865 JOHNSON INAUGURATION 

https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Peace-Struggle-American-Civil/dp/1524733172

We set out on the James River, March 25, 1865, aboard the paddle steamboat River Queen. President Lincoln is on his way to General Grant’s headquarters at City Point, Virginia, and he’s decided he won’t return to Washington until he’s witnessed, or perhaps even orchestrated, the end of the Civil War. Now, it turns out, more than a century and a half later, historians are still searching for that end.

Was it April 9, at Appomattox, as conventional wisdom holds, where Lee surrendered to Grant in Wilmer McLean’s parlor? Or was it ten weeks afterward, in Galveston, where a federal commander proclaimed Juneteenth the end of slavery? Or perhaps in August of 1866, when President Andrew Johnson simply declared “the insurrection is at an end”? That the answer was elusive was baffling even to a historian of the stature of Michael Vorenberg, whose work served as a key source of Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln. Vorenberg was inspired to write this groundbreaking book, finding its title in the peace Lincoln hoped for but could not make before his assassination. A peace that required not one but many endings, as Vorenberg reveals in these pages, the most important of which came well more than a year after Lincoln’s untimely death. 

To say how a war ends is to suggest how it should be remembered, and Vorenberg’s search is not just for the Civil War’s endpoint but for its true nature and legacy, so essential to the American identity. It’s also a quest, in our age of “forever wars,” to understand whether the United States's interminable conflicts of the current era have a precedent in the Civil War—and whether, in a sense, wars ever end at all, or merely wax and wane.

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0:26.0

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0:28.0

And the Evanses.

0:29.2

And the Bertels.

0:34.8

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:38.3

Here's John Batchelor.

0:41.3

This is CBSI. On the World. I'm John Batchelor.

0:45.3

Continuing my conversation with the author Michael Vorenberg, also professor of history at Brown University.

0:51.3

The book is Lincoln's Peace, The Struggle to End the American Civil War.

0:56.0

We've looked at Appomattox Courthouse, not the end.

0:59.2

We've looked at Benham Place near Durham, North Carolina,

1:02.2

the surrender of Joe Johnson's army to William Sherman, not the end.

1:05.9

We've looked possibly at the trial of the conspirators,

1:14.6

not only those who murdered and Lincoln and attacked the Secretary of State, but the man responsible for horrible death at

1:19.6

Andersonville, not the end. We've looked at the surrender of various guerrilla-like forces

1:25.6

or holdouts in Columbus, Georgia, in Texas near Brownsville,

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