4.8 • 902 Ratings
🗓️ 9 May 2022
⏱️ 32 minutes
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0:00.0 | For Pacifica Radio, May 8th, 2022. |
0:05.0 | I'm Scott Horton. |
0:07.0 | This is anti-war radio. I'm your host Scott Horton. |
0:27.0 | I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com, an author of the book Enough Already. |
0:32.5 | Time to End the War on Terrorism. |
0:34.8 | You can find my full interview archive, |
0:36.8 | more than 5,700 of them now, |
0:39.0 | going back to 2003 at Scott Horton.org and at YouTube.com slash Scott Horton show. |
0:46.0 | All right, y'all and introducing today's guest, it's Stephen M. Walt, Professor at Harvard University and one of the leaders of America's |
0:57.2 | Realist School of Foreign Policy Studies. He's co-author of the book The Israel Lobby with John J. Meersheimer, and he's also the |
1:06.4 | author of The Hell With Good Intentions. No, it's The Hell of Good Intentions. |
1:11.8 | America's Foreign Policy Elite and the decline of U.S. primacy |
1:16.2 | and other great books like that. |
1:18.0 | Welcome back to the show, Stephen. |
1:19.3 | How are you doing, sir? |
1:20.6 | I'm not doing badly, Scott. |
1:22.2 | Nice to be with you. I really appreciate you joining us on the show today and |
1:27.4 | Could you just describe for us real kind of thumbnail take on what makes you a realist compared to say a neo-con or a liberal |
1:35.5 | interventionist or a non-interventionist like myself? Sure I mean I think realists |
1:40.9 | begin with the recognition that there is no central agency or |
1:45.8 | institution in the world that can protect states from each other in force |
1:50.0 | agreements, ensure cooperation, that it's a world of anarchy where every state is |
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