Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn returns with me Kaggi Dunlop. This is a

podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be

confusion and doubt.

I just wasn't embracing and doing enough stuff

that serves that essence, the who I am,

but now I really do feel like I'm doing that.

Today I am joined by the author and illustrator Laura Brand.

Laura's first book, A Homemade Crafts Guide for Children, came out over lockdown and as you can imagine it was an instant hit.

Laura therefore decided to focus her second book around Kras for adults and has just released the Joy

Journal for Grown-ups. I was really keen to chat

Laura because a prevailing theme of this Saturn return series is maintaining our

creativity. Sometimes as we approach our Saturn return, we can feel like we've lost who we are.

Creative exploits are a great way to reconnect with the old you, that child within.

And as we're here in this chat, Laura definitely experienced this herself. She said crafting and

creativity really helped her come back to her authentic self after losing her

essence in her 20s. I was really keen to speak to Laura because lots of people that know us both have said that we have a lot of similarities and so I was really happy to have her on and also just to talk about this idea of maintaining our creativity and our childlike wonder, you know,

embracing the little joys day to day because as we get into adulthood, we can just sidetrack all those things

and I think they're really important to reclaim.

Just to add a bit of context to the conversation because Laura references her husband a couple of times

and that is fellow podcaster and comedian Russell Brand.

Before we get into any of this though, let's hear from our wonderful astrological guide,

Nora.

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