I'm back in plenary session, virtual edition. I'm joined by EBM Room, an evidence-based medicine rheumatologist.

His name is Dr. Mike Putman. He is an assistant professor at the Medical College of Wisconsin.

My favorite city on the Great Lake. No, that's not true. It's Chicago. It's my second favorite city.

Although they do have some great brew problems. Mike, it's a pleasure to have you join us. This is going to be a reverse interview.

I shall let the audience know.

You're going to be interviewing me.

I'm in the hot seat here because I guess apparently some things I said have caught some people's ire.

So Mike, you take it away.

You let them know what we're up to here.

Yeah, sounds great.

Thank you for having me. It's an honor beyond plenary session. So,

yeah, thanks for having me. I'm excited. I'm excited too. Yeah. So we did, we did not prepare, right?

We don't know what's going on. No, you heard that I might grill you on Twitter, but you don't know

anything past that. And, you know, full disclosure for the audience. We're both part of the

Adam Seafood tree.

So if this isn't a disaster, we can blame Adam.

Most things in life, you can blame Adam.

I think that's fair.

So you trained under Adam as well.

Yeah, I was a resident at University of Chicago and a medical student there.

And so his fourth year class on reading papers kind of kicked off a lot of what I'm doing today. So I have a lot of, I have a lot of gratitude to him.

And I would say pretty much exactly quote unquote same thing. So all right. Yeah.

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