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5-4 x Bloc Party: Michael on How the Dems Flopped on Debt Relief

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, News, Government

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Breaking news! It's not just the Supreme Court that sucks - it's ALSO the executive and legislative branches!  This week we're sharing Michael's appearance on Bloc Party, talking about how oral arguments went down in the SCOTUS cases that could make or break Biden’s student loan cancellation initiative.  Eleni Schirmer from the Debt Collective also joins in, to cringe at Roberts’ lawnmower commentary and reflect on the way Biden is (or more notably…is not) exercising his executive authority. 


Bloc Party is a show from Justice Democrats about the fight for the soul of the Democratic Party, featuring progressive champions challenging the status quo from inside the halls of power and the organizers transforming the party’s agenda from the outside. You can find it wherever you found this podcast.


5 to 4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our production manager is Percia Verlin. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


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0:00.0

Hey everyone, this is Leon from Fiasco and Prologue Projects.

0:09.0

This week, 5-4 is sharing Michael's appearance on an episode of Block Party, a show about

0:13.9

the fight for the soul of the Democratic Party.

0:16.8

Michael is joined by host Waleed Shaheed and the debt collectives, Alayni Sharmer, to

0:21.4

talk about student debt cancellation.

0:23.4

Go get into the progress of two cases at the Supreme Court that could sink President

0:27.5

Biden's efforts entirely and how we got here in the first place.

0:32.1

This is 5-4 on Block Party, a podcast about how much Congress and the presidency also

0:37.2

suck.

0:57.5

I'm Waleed Shaheed and I'm Amira Hassan.

1:08.2

Just kidding, Amira is not here right now, it's just going to be me and I'm going insane.

1:12.5

You're listening to Block Party, a show about, what's the show about?

1:18.0

It's about progressive movements, transforming America to give material benefit.

1:23.5

We do class warfare from 9 to 5 p.m.

1:26.0

So today, we invited two guests to join us today to talk about the ongoing fight that

1:31.5

has made somewhat surprisingly, all the way to the Supreme Court, the student debt cancellation

1:36.6

saga.

1:37.6

We've had a couple episodes on this now where we've talked about it, but we're joined

1:41.5

by a very special guest, Michael from the 5-4 podcast, excellent podcast on the history

1:46.9

and legacy of the Supreme Court.

1:49.7

And Alayni from the debt collective, who you have heard from before on Block Party on

1:55.1

this topic.

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