Phil Mackey.

If you need him, it's trouble.

Why is it trouble?

Why is it trouble?

Because he's young and he's going to struggle at times.

Judd Zolgad.

I changed my thought from a half hour ago.

You are a bad person.

Mackie and Judd on 1500 ESPN.

Well, I think that's good.

I don't think people should be staying in locker rooms, but still I think it's good. good you have to stand proudly for the national anthem well you shouldn't be

playing you shouldn't be there maybe you shouldn't be in the country you have to

stand proudly for the national anthem and the NFL owners did the right

thing if that's what they've done because when I think about the core of our

country's belief systems freedom land of the free home brave, I think, forcing people to do things

against their will, Matthew Collar. That's what I think. Yeah, it depends on what kind of direction

you really want to go with this for this conversation. But that right there is just mind-blowing,

like for what America even is in general and what people actually

fought for and what the people that I know who are in the military who I've had conversations

about this because they know what my job is and what we've talked about what they fight

for and what they sacrifice for is your ability to say what you

want or stand if you want. And North Korea is a country where you have to stand. So it

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