Welcome to the prayers of breath podcast. I'm your host, Ashrida Choochoo, and by now you know that this is our bonus interview as we go through praying through hard emotions. And if you've been enjoying this season, if you've been enjoying the bonus interviews that have come along,

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too. This week we got to hear the story of God's faithfulness in the midst of guilt in the life

Trillia Neubel. Trillia is an author of multiple books, including several children's books and

Bible studies and books on faith and freedom, as well as the Bible study on Romans 8, which we

talk about a little bit in this interview and even more in the extra segment in our Patreon

prayer partner community. I'll tell you more about that later.

But as we start this, what's interesting to note is you'll hear why Trilia thought she was

not a good fit to be a guest to talk about this topic.

And you'll also hear why I invited her on anyway and how the conversation just blossomed into

a spirit-led sharing of how God works in our lives in the midst of conviction and godly sorrow

and what that looks like and how God worked in her life to the point where it ends in such

a beautiful place. So I hope you make time today. Settle in whether you're folding laundry

or you're walking the dog or you're sitting in the carpool line. I hope that this story of God's

faithfulness is an encouragement to you. So let's

dig in. Trilia, as you and I were emailing back and forth on this topic of guilt, you shared

that it's not something that you struggle with these days anymore, but it was something

that was a heavy burden to carry before you came to follow Jesus. And so I would love for you to

share that story with us today and to get us started. Would you maybe describe where you were,

maybe in that year or two before you encountered Jesus.

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