Welcome to this week's bonus interview on the Proz of Rest podcast. I'm your host,

Ashrida Choochoo, and today we're talking to my new friend, Felicia Masonheimer, about feeling

judgy. I mean, it's something we don't really want to admit to feeling, but most of us do at one time or another.

Judge other people and sense that criticism welling up in our hearts.

So Felicia has been kind enough to come on and share with us how to navigate those feelings in a way that invites God into the process,

what that's looked like in her life and also how to grow through that instead of letting

it become a barrier to our relationship with Jesus, but also our relationship with other people as well.

Felicia is a best-selling author, speaker, and public theologian. She's also the host of the Verity

podcast, a mom, and we bonded over our unique names and how often people mispronounce them. So it's been so fun to get to know

Felicia and she has such wisdom to share in this episode. In fact, you're probably coming to

expect it at this point. Our conversation did run along. And so we did record an exclusive segment for our Patreon prayer partners.

And in that segment, Felicia shares how to engage someone who is judgmental in their relationship

with you and how to navigate that.

You'll hear more information about how to listen

to that exclusive clip after this interview. But for now, let's dive in. Well, Felicia, this

week, we are talking specifically about feelings of judgment. And this is something that I know can be a bit of a tricky topic because on the one hand,

there's some of us who've grown in church our whole lives.

Maybe there's some legalism in our background.

There's a very clear list of do's and don'ts.

And the way, at least for me growing up, the way I knew if I was on

the straight or narrow was kind of comparing myself to that list. Where do I line up? And when that

becomes the primary lens through which we view our lives and our behavior, it can also run

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