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First Name Basis Podcast

5.1: What About Black On Black Crime?

First Name Basis Podcast

Jasmine Bradshaw

How To, Parenting, Education, Kids & Family

5629 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

When a white person murders a Black person and we try to call it like it is — RACISM — there’s a response that, without fail, will crop up.

The heartbreaking circumstances of the killing can differ — whether it’s police violence like in the cases of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd or racist white vigilantes like in the case of Ahmaud Arbery — but the frustrating response we often hear is the same: “Well what about Black on Black crime?”

Let’s take a moment now to get our collective eye roll out of the way before we tackle how to respond. 

While this response is SO FRUSTRATING, I’m here to help you have the tools to address it, focus on your values and hopefully have a productive conversation with the person who brings it up.

In this episode, we will talk about:

  • How your response will differ if you are BIPOC. Spoiler alert: Your primary responsibility is to protect yourself.
  • Where to start when you’re trying to engage someone in a conversation about this.
  • What research actually says about race and crime.
  • What under-resourced and over-exploited communities have to do with this conversation.
  • How to help the person you’re talking to dissect why they asked that question in the first place.

Y’all, don’t forget to see this question for what it really is: a deflection tactic. And by the end of this episode, you’ll know exactly what to do to face it head-on.

 

Race Talk Roadmap

Our Race Talk Roadmap is the tool you need to begin conversations about race and racism with your children! We have a list of three tips for parents of older children and a list of three tips for parents of younger children. Visit firstnamebasis.org/racetalk to get the Race Talk Roadmap sent straight to your inbox.

 

Articles, Studies & Podcasts Referenced In The Episode 

Code Switch Podcast: “ Imagining a World Without Prisons or Police” 

So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo 

Report from the US Justice Department: Household Poverty and Nonfatal Violent Victimization 2008-2012

Why We Don’t Talk About Black on Black Crime: An Answer to White America’s Most Pressing Question” by Michael Harriot

‘Black-on-Black Crime” Is a Dangerous Myth” by Jameelah Nasheed

First Name Basis Podcast: Season 3, Episode 29: “Critical Race Theory in Schools

2018 report from the Center for American Progress, “Systemic Inequality: How America’s Structural Racism Helped Create the Black-White Wealth Gap

Code Switch Podcast: “Tulsa, 100 Years Later

Zinn Education Project: “Jan 1, 1923: Rosewood Massacre

 

Song Credit: “Sleeper” by Steve Adams” and “Dive Down” by VYEN

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the First Name Basis podcast, season five, episode one. What about Black on Black

0:06.5

Crime? Teaching our children to be inclusive and anti-racist starts with us within the sacred

0:19.8

walls of our home. First Namename basis is designed to empower you

0:23.9

with the confidence you need to be a leader in your family and a changemaker in your community.

0:29.6

Together, we will wrestle with hard questions and use the answers to create the world we want,

0:35.3

a world that reflects our values of inclusion, compassion, and courage.

0:41.0

I'm your host, Jasmine Bradshaw, and I am so excited to be on this journey with you.

0:49.2

Hello, First Name Basis, fam. I am so glad you are here. I had to re-record that because I actually forgot

0:57.8

what I say. I guess it's been a quick minute since we've been together. Welcome to Season 5. I really am so

1:06.8

glad that you are here. And today we are going to have such a good conversation. So let's dive in.

1:14.8

Before we start, I have to give a trigger warning, of course, to all of my black indigenous

1:19.6

people of color. My brothers and sisters, my melanated people, just know that in this conversation

1:26.4

we're going to be talking about enslavement.

1:29.5

We'll be talking about colonization.

1:32.1

And I absolutely understand if this is not something that you can hold or carry today.

1:37.6

Please know that I'm supporting you and I want you to be in the best, most loving, healing place possible. So if you need to step away from this

1:46.0

podcast, I totally understand. All right. So today we are going to be talking about how to respond

1:52.6

to the question, what about black on black crime? Now, before we jump into that, I want to introduce

2:00.0

myself because I have a feeling since we are starting

2:02.3

a new season that some of you might be new to me or you might be new to first name basis. So welcome.

2:09.0

My name is Jasmine Bradshaw. I am a mom of two girls. One is four and the other is one. My sweet

2:16.1

husband Carter and I live in Mesa, Arizona, on the land of

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