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Brussels Playbook Podcast

4th wave — Whistleblower Frances Haugen — EU border blackmail

Brussels Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.4202 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we discuss Europe's coronavirus resurgence and the escalating migration crisis at the Polish border. Plus, we hear exclusively from Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen on the EU's efforts to rein in Big Tech. As coronavirus cases soar across Europe and vaccine hesitancy lingers, POLITICO's Health Care Editor Doug Busvine and Health Care Reporter Ashleigh Furlong explain how Europe got to this point and what options officials are considering to stem the tide — especially as winter approaches. Temperatures are also dropping at the border between Poland and Belarus, where tensions intensified this week. Thousands of migrants are trapped on the frontier between the two countries, and at least nine people have died. POLITICO's Matthew Karnitschnig speaks to Gerald Knaus, migration expert and co-founder of the European Stability Initiative, about the EU's options for diffusing the situation and finding a more permanent solution. Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen is our special guest. She spoke to POLITICO's Chief Technology Correspondent Mark Scott during her trip to Brussels, where she also testified in the European Parliament this week. Haugen addresses the risks of being a whistleblower and why she believes the European Union is primed to take on Big Tech companies to better police harmful online content. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

EU Confidential gets started right after this message.

0:03.7

Today's episode is presented by SQM.

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0:16.0

The nice thing about the European Union and part of why I've been so happy to support the progress that we're

0:21.3

making here is the European Union is very linguistically diverse. Any solution that scales across

0:26.9

the European Union will also likely bootstrap some of those interventions in other parts of the

0:31.4

world. Hello and welcome to EU Confidential. I'm Matt Karnichnichnich, Politico's chief Europe correspondent in Berlin,

0:40.1

filling in for Andrew Gray this week as he rambles across the Scottish Highlands with his kilt and bagpipes.

0:47.0

Even in his absence, we've managed to cobble together a fantastic episode for you,

0:51.6

so be sure to stick around.

0:53.7

Later in the episode, you'll hear more from the voice you heard at the top of the podcast,

0:58.7

Francis Howgan.

1:00.0

She recently revealed a trove of secret documents about the inner workings of her former employer,

1:05.6

a little company called Facebook.

1:07.6

Politico's Mark Scott sat down with the whistleblower during her trip to Brussels this week, where she testified in the European Parliament.

1:15.3

We have to just trust Facebook says. What Facebook says is true. And they have repeatedly proved they do not deserve our blind faith.

1:24.5

Also in this episode, we'll look at the growing humanitarian crisis in Eastern Europe, as

1:29.7

Belarus sends thousands of migrants to the Polish border. We'll discuss the issue and the options

1:35.6

the EU has to manage it with migration expert Gerald Knauss. But first, let's get to our

1:42.3

podcast panel to discuss the other issue that has crept back up to the top of the agenda in Europe, the coronavirus.

1:50.0

So, joining us on the panel this week are Doug Busvine, Politico's health editor in Brussels.

1:57.0

Hi there, Doug.

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