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Hey, y'all, I just wanted to tell you about a conference that you might want to be a part of.

It's called Baja Khan, and it's going to be August 26 through 28th.

It's going to be right on the edge in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada, and Port Huron, Michigan.

And it's going to have some of your favorite speakers, Seth Andrews, Dan Barker, Annie Laurie Gaylor,

our own Dave Warnock, Josh Bowen, Hemet Meta. So it's going to have a lot of people.

And Baja stands for Blue Water, Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics Conference. So I'm going to put the details right in the

description, but if you can go to that, I think you'll enjoy meeting a lot of people who are

just like you. So Baja Khan, August 26 through 28. Just go to Blue Water Aha for Atheistshumanistagnostics.com.

Thank you. Welcome to Deconversion Therapy, and I think it's our fourth Cooke-Off.

So first of all, I'm Karen.

I'm Bonnie, and I didn't get the pun of Kukoff until maybe the second year.

We don't have to give everything away that's in our minds.

It's okay.

They think you're the smart one.

No, they don't.

I don't know what you are.

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