Hi, podcast listeners. This week's podcast was recorded September 14th and 15th,

2022 at the Midwest Building Science Symposium held at Boulevard Brewery in Kansas City, Missouri.

There was a live audience there, and I think it was a pretty fun show.

Unfortunately, we didn't have a way to capture video, but I think it'll be worth your time.

Thanks very much for listening. Enjoy the show.

If you want to fill a balloon, you don't cover it with fluffy insulation. You blow air into it and

steal it up. You don't blow air into a leaky balloon and then put insulation on it.

You have to have a good air barrier, right? My knowledge of balloons confirms that, Patrick.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building podcast, a regular discussion of building, remodeling, and design topics aimed at anybody who cares deeply about the craft and science of working on houses.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Fine Homeboding Editorio Director Andrew Zellner.

Great to be here in an evening capacity with a beer in front of me.

Joe Cook from Catalyst Construction. Yes, thank you very much.

And Travis Berengar, the mayor of building science.

That might not be factual. I can't, I can't live up to that, Patrick, but thank you very much.

It is such a pleasure to be in front of you all today.

I've been telling Andrew all week that this is our tribe, and it is such a wonderful experience to share,

conversations, learning, and good times with the people who are here today.

Thank you so much for coming.

You are doing your part to help our built environment, and I respect you all for being here, giving of your own time,

sharing of your knowledge. Thank you so much for being here. What do you guys want to say

before we get kicked off here? Well, I think it's our responsibility to thank you guys, basically the fine home building

organization along with all of our sponsors that help put this together. This event doesn't happen

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