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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

497 | Your Social Security Questions Answered

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Careers, Investing, Business

4.85.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Most people think they understand Social Security—until they try to calculate their actual benefit. Mike Piper, founder of Open Social Security and author of Social Security Made Simple, breaks down exactly how retirement benefits work, from decoding your primary insurance amount to navigating spousal and survivor benefits. Brad and Mike tackle dozens of listener questions, clarifying when delaying payments makes sense, how the windfall elimination provision can cut benefits in half, and why the math matters more than your financial independence timeline. Key Topics Understanding Full Retirement Age & Primary Insurance Amount [00:02:00] Your full retirement age varies by birth year—67 for anyone born in 1960 or later. The primary insurance amount (PIA) is what you receive if you file exactly at this age. How Retirement Benefits Are Calculated [00:05:41] Benefits are based on your highest 35 years of earnings, adjusted for inflation. Only a small percentage of workers earn the maximum taxable amount for all 35 years, making it rare to receive the absolute maximum benefit. [00:10:10] Spousal Benefits Explained [00:16:30] A spouse can receive up to 50% of the higher earner's PIA if they haven't worked enough to qualify for their own benefit. Filing timing affects these amounts significantly. Survivor Benefits Overview [00:19:20] If the higher earner dies before filing, the survivor benefit is based on what they would have received at their age of death. This makes early filing decisions particularly consequential for couples. [00:45:00] Strategies for Filing [00:24:00] Delaying Social Security effectively means purchasing a pension for your future. [00:33:36] Longer life spans create greater financial risk, making delayed claiming more valuable for those who expect to live longer than average. [00:32:50] Windfall Elimination Provision [01:00:00] If you have a pension from employment not covered by Social Security, the windfall elimination provision can reduce your benefit by up to half of your monthly government pension. [01:00:48] Resources Open Social Security Calculator [01:03:03] Social Security Made Simple [01:02:42] SSA.tools [01:03:42] Action Items Calculate your primary insurance amount to understand your baseline benefit [00:39:00] Use the Open Social Security calculator to compare different filing scenarios [00:39:00] Assess spousal and survivor benefits based on your household's specific circumstances [00:24:00] ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 500 — Episode 500: Choose Financial Independence Today | Essential Listening

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Choose a Phi.

0:01.6

Today on the show we have a follow-up for a Social Security deep dive.

0:06.0

And I'm really happy to say we have a true expert, Mike Piper, who is the founder of

0:12.0

Open Social Security.com and the author of Social

0:15.0

Security made simple and I love his his little tagline here on this book

0:19.1

Social Security retirement benefits and related planning topics explained in a hundred pages or less.

0:25.1

And searching for simplicity in something complex is just a hallmark of what we do here at Choose

0:30.5

FI and that just stuck out to me. I've heard Mike on prior

0:34.7

podcast and he really really is a deep expert in this. I think this is going to

0:40.0

really help answer a lot of the questions on episode 474 when we did our first

0:45.6

episode I asked you the community to send in your questions on Social Security

0:49.7

and we received dozens of them and we also have some updates some

0:54.2

clarification some corrections from that original episode and I think that's what

0:58.2

we're ultimately doing here as we're trying to get closer to understanding and understanding that things change and we need as a

1:08.0

five community to come together and just try to get an understanding of something complex.

1:12.1

And I think Social Security is deeply complex but we have

1:15.5

Mike here to cut through the noise. I think you're really going to enjoy this and with that

1:19.3

welcome to choose that five. I'm fine. All right, Mike, I am so glad you're here.

1:28.0

Thank you for joining me.

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Thank you for the invitation.

1:32.0

Yeah, this should be great.

1:34.0

So I think as I said on the front side of this, we have just a ton of questions that get through.

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