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The lunch happened in of course November 2012 and we were talking about how we had the sense of dread about the Wii U.

I knew something was wrong when I want to pre-order the Wii U Amazon.com, okay, in my cart and done,

something is wrong here. When you can successfully buy a piece of hardware, yes, that's crystal. If a console is

available, there's something wrong. Either you're being sold like a brick in a box or it's not going to

be popular because I think even as of this recording, I still see on Twitter like, oh, there's a lottery

to buy a PS5 today. Get in line, everybody. I mean, I know it's because of supply chain issues, but

before the Wii U, it took me 18 months to get a Wii. I did not play the Wii myself in my own home until

like February of 2008 or something crazy like that. Yeah, I was not used to just being able to order

a console and you still can't do that today. Yeah. Yeah, the launch numbers wise, I don't remember the

exact number, but it was okay, you know, that first weekend or a week or so, but it fell off really fast.

And that's obviously not what we had expected. I remember we had spent a lot of time before talking

about, well, we got to send these systems out to media. So how many can we get and who can we send

them out to? And we were really strictly limited. It's like, no, this thing is going to sell out. We

need every single unit we can get out on the shelves because people are going to want to buy this thing

and may have miscalculated on that little thing. Just a bit. Yeah. And I was looking over the launch

titles for this and I was like, oh, you know, these games are all pretty good. There's some, you know,

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