From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 496 today's show is brought to you by Vitally, Delete Me and

Square Space.

I would like to welcome you to the 40th anniversary of the Mac draft.

While everybody else is going to be talking about the Vision Pro

this week, we'll get back to that next week

because on this show today,

we're going to celebrate this important day in the history of the Macintosh and for

this momentous occasion we have selected a panel of momentous participants to draft a

list of Macintosh accolades. So please welcome to the show Shelly Brisbane public

radio journalist and host of Paroleo on Real AFM. Hi Shelley. Hello it's great to be

here. Stephen Hackett from 512 pixels and host of various shows here on Relay FM.

Hi Stephen.

Thanks for having me.

And Dan Moran of Six Colors,

Host of Clockwise in Relay FM,

the rebound of various shows on the incomparable.

Hi Dan.

Hi, Mike, pleased to be here, pleased to be ready to wipe the floor with my competition.

Okay.

Dan introduced the smack talk talk.

We have John Gruber of Daring Fireball, the talk show and Dithering.

Hi John.

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