Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

SMH, shaking my head.

Isn't that what the kids say nowadays?

Well, that's what I do when I read so-called Catholic journals that publish articles that

actually undermine Catholic faith and Catholic morality.

That's what I want to talk about today here on the Council of Trend Podcast.

I'm your host, Catholic Answers Apologist and Speaker, Trent Horn.

The Genesis for today's episode came while I was researching a venue to have an in-person

dialogue with Nathan Nobus.

Nobus is a pro-choice philosopher who's written a lot on the issue of abortion.

Then I would enjoy having an in-person dialogue with him.

I always try to seek out the best people who defend the best defenders of opposing views.

I always want to seek them out.

I had a great debate with David Boone and on the issue of abortions several years ago

at Stanford University.

So I was looking for a venue to have an in-person dialogue with Nathan Nobus on the subject.

He teaches at Morehouse College, which is in Atlanta.

And I want to do in-person because after doing the Ben Watkins debate, it was just so refreshing

to actually do an in-person debate.

And I'm just so sick of Zoom.

I mean, I'll do it if I have to.

But there is just nothing like sitting across the table from someone or right across from

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