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The Welcome to Crawl Space. I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. I hope all the listeners out there are doing fantastic as well.

The guests that we have on, he's been here a few times already, and we always have a good time with

him. He's always such a wealth of information, but he delivers it in such a way that I think

anybody can understand it and damn handsome. But Tim, before we get to our guest, how are you today?

I am doing great over here.

Thanks a lot for asking.

And yeah, I am excited to once again announce our guest, Matt Murphy of Matt Murphy Law.com.

And he's a new author.

He wrote a great book called The Book of Murder. It's out now.

You can check it out in this episode with him. This is now the third time we've spoken with Mr.

Matt Murphy, Lance, and we spoke more about his book in the first two conversations, the book of

murder. But in this third conversation, we speak a little bit about his next book.

And in this conversation, we speak mostly about serial killers and from his perspective,

what it was like to try them as a former homicide prosecutor from Orange County.

He tried Rodney Alcala, the serial killer.

And so we spend a good maybe 20 minutes or so speaking about Rodney Alcala. And really the second half of the conversation is about the Long Island serial killer,

or I should say the alleged Long Island serial killer, Rex Heuerman.

And Matt is such a great person to sit down with and speak about these crimes and the people

who perpetrate them because, like you said, he was a prosecutor and he has been involved

in these situations where he has to sort of think like them, manipulate

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