492 – The War for Perception
The British History Podcast
Jamie Jeffers
4.6 • 7K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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In 1668, John Dryden became England’s very first Poet Laureate. But he had a rival. No, not just a rival. A nemesis. This man’s name was Thomas Shadwell, and I can’t overstate how much Dryden hated him.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the British History podcast. My name is Jamie, and this is episode 492, The War for Perception. |
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| 0:34.4 | In 1668, John Dryden became England's very first poet laureate. |
| 0:41.2 | But he had a rival. |
| 0:43.4 | No, not just a rival, a nemesis. |
| 0:48.2 | This man's name was Thomas Shadwell. |
| 0:50.9 | And I can't overstate how much Dryden hated him. He hated him so much, |
| 0:58.0 | in fact, that in 1682, wielding the full influence that he had as England's poet laureate, |
| 1:06.2 | Dryden wrote McFlechno. Now, this was a poem that was written in heroic couplets, much like the |
| 1:14.5 | English translations of Homer's epics. However, instead of being a grand tale of adventure and gods, |
| 1:23.9 | McFlecno was about Thomas Shadwell. Specifically, it was about how Shadwell was an unfunny jackass and a terrible |
| 1:33.4 | writer. Seven years later, in 1689, Dryden was dethroned and a new poet laureate was proclaimed. |
| 1:43.7 | It was Thomas Shadwell. |
| 1:46.4 | So Shadwell won the poetry battle, right? |
| 1:50.4 | Wrong. |
| 1:51.5 | Because while most of you have probably read some of Dryden's works in school at some point in your lives, |
| 1:57.9 | most people have never heard of Shadwell. And those who have heard of him, |
| 2:03.8 | mostly know of him through Dryden's torrent of abuse in McFlechno. Dryden's burn was so effective |
| 2:11.0 | that for hundreds of years, Shadwell was mostly just a punchline. And it wasn't until relatively recently that scholars even took a serious look at his work. |
| 2:21.5 | And then we're all, wow, you know what? |
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