What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Let's kick this thing off.

Chris Giancarlo is a lawyer who served as the prior chairman of the CFTC. He earned the nickname of Crypto Dad for his innovative thinking while serving in that role.

Jake Ryan is the founder and CIO of Tradecraft Capital, a macro thesis-driven crypto fund.

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