49: Getting Into The Experience - Adventure Therapy with Ricky Santiago
The Addicted Mind Podcast
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
4.7 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 27 September 2018
⏱️ 29 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Ricky Santiago, a specialist in adventure therapy, joined us for this episode of The Addicted Mind podcast. He uses specially planned and designed activities such as kayaking, snorkeling, and ropes courses in his adventure therapy sessions. Experiential therapy like adventure therapy maximizes the benefits of group therapy by building self-esteem, utilizing metaphors, and providing an arena to practice coping skills and process emotions. Ricky and his colleagues have often found more success through one experiential therapy session than through several talk therapy sessions because clients are not able to hide their true selves when they are participating in an activity that is challenging to them mentally, emotionally, or physically.
Since the therapist is participating in the activity as well, the clients see how the therapist handles their emotions and difficulties they come across, and clients can more easily open up about fears or challenges in their own lives or experiences. Though the timing of the formal “processing” aspect of the therapy session differs depending on the activity and the group, this is a crucial step for clients to take as they draw parallels from the adventure activity to their own lives, perhaps realizing things that they never had or being willing to share a trauma that they had never voiced. The effects of the treatment are ongoing, as the client will continually draw on their experience as they approach the problems in their lives and take steps to resolve the situation, just as they had been taught.
Ricky encourages everyone to remember that recovery is possible and pursuing the treatment you need can change the trajectory of your entire family if you show up motivated and ready to work toward healing.
Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-addicted-mind-podcast/donations
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | All right, we are on to episode 49 of the Addicted Mind podcast. |
| 0:10.4 | My name is Twayne Austerlund, and I'm your host. |
| 0:13.3 | And I'm also the founder of Novis Mindful Life Institute, family counseling and recovery in Long |
| 0:19.3 | Beach, California. |
| 0:20.9 | Once again, if you or anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges, |
| 0:26.0 | please reach out to us. |
| 0:27.5 | I know we can help. |
| 0:28.9 | You can find out more information about us at theaddictedmind.com forward slash help. |
| 0:34.8 | Okay, today we have a great guest. Ricky Santiago is going to talk about adventure therapy |
| 0:42.5 | and how he uses that to work with individuals and groups who are struggling in addiction to |
| 0:52.1 | build self-esteem, to challenge difficult emotions, |
| 0:57.1 | to really kind of deal with some of life's problems |
| 1:01.9 | we have right in the moment in the here and now. |
| 1:05.7 | And I think it's a great episode about how experiential therapy can really help get to some of those underlying issues we struggle with quickly and effectively and in a way that is safe and worked. |
| 1:20.7 | So I really enjoyed this episode with Ricky. |
| 1:23.4 | I think you guys will like it as well. |
| 1:25.8 | And let's just go ahead and start it. |
| 1:34.5 | Hello, everybody. |
| 1:35.6 | Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. |
| 1:38.1 | My guest today is Ricky Santiago, and he is going to talk about adventure therapy and how that helps people with |
| 1:47.3 | addiction. Ricky, thanks for coming on the show. You want to introduce yourself? It's great to be on, |
| 1:52.6 | Duane, and thank you for having me on. Yes, I'm a licensed by health counselor here in the state of |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Duane Osterlind, LMFT, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Duane Osterlind, LMFT and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

