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tell your Facebook friends immediately. All right, he is the co-founder and chief herb nerd at Herbologic.

Please welcome David Jones to the show. Welcome Dave. Well, thank you very much for having me. I appreciate it. Yes, I'm so glad to

have you. So I would love if you could take us back. What made you fall in love with herbs and

become the chief herb nerd? Well, that's a good question. So when you go to acupuncture school,

which is where this started is, uh, is, uh, there are two sort ofacts. There's the acupuncture tract and the herb

track. Some schools sort of lean more heavily in one direction than the other, and the school that I

went to in Austin, Texas had a pretty good herb program, and that was, I mean, I just fell in love

with them. Everything about herbs all the time.

The acupuncture was great, but I really just wanted to always be in the herb room,

smelling, tasting, building formulas, reading more about them.

And that is what led me to start building formulas.

You know, I started making tinctures while I was a student, and I just made the ones that were most popular among the other students.

And I would keep them in my backpack.

And that's pretty much how I bought lunch,

was undercutting the school's store by making what I thought were higher quality products.

You're an herb dealer.

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