Hello everyone. Hello everybody I had the opportunity today to continue an ongoing conversation with a friend and colleague of mine, Greg Hurwitz.

We've been talking intensely for 30 years

and have involved ourselves together

in a multitude of projects,

including one that was designed to help pull the Democrats to the center.

Greg has been involved more recently in an enterprise called us, the story, which is aiming at criticizing the victim victimizer narrative that

characterizes our culture at least the pathological elements of it but

also delving into the root causes of the disintegration and polarization that now characterize our culture.

Now, some of that's a consequence of intellectual movement, but some of it is actually

facilitated by a series of bad actors and those involve people who are agitating directly

and consciously as well as indirectly and unconsciously on the international front, Iran, China, and Russia,

who are using the social media access that they have, especially to young people and particularly to young women, to really

demand and distort their political view and in a manner that's really, really hard on the culture.

And so Greg talks a fair bit about exactly how that's laying itself out.

And on the optimistic side, we talked a fair bit about, well, the counterposition to that,

which is that there's mass deep agreement among the vast majority of Americans on key policy issues,

both international and domestic. And none of that gets in the air time. And so what do we do?

Detail out the role of the bad international actors.

Talk a little bit about the psychopathic trolls

and the demonic algorithms and stress the fact

that there is intense unity in a Central American story,

hence us the story, let's say, that does unite people properly and productively and passionately and psychologically and socially

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