#488: The Exploitation of Natalia Grace | Part 2
Real Crime Profile
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🗓️ 24 January 2024
⏱️ 59 minutes
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We continue our discussion about Natalia Grace, her life as far as we know it and the case built against her by her adoptive parents Michael and Kristine Barnett who claimed Natalia was a manipulative, dangerous, sociopath posing as a child while actually being a full grown adult. Sounds like something out of a bad Hollywood movie, but it is a narrative that has followed Natalia throughout her trauma filled life and has had serious consequences. Laura and Jim analyze Natalia’s behavior as well as the actions and statements of the people around her. Who is telling the truth? Who is abusing and coercively controlling who? Who do you believe? Join us.
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| 0:06.0 | How did I know that? I have crystal ball in my head. |
| 0:09.0 | New cases. |
| 0:10.0 | Leave her, Al-Loh! |
| 0:12.0 | So, uh, this is not a so. This is a period. |
| 0:15.0 | Classic Judy. It's streaming. You can say anything. |
| 0:18.0 | It's an all new season, Judy Justice. |
| 0:21.0 | Only on FreeVie. Hello and Welcome to Real Crime Profile this is Jim Clemente, retired FBI Profiler former New York City prosecutor writer producer Criminal Minds. |
| 0:38.0 | With me today is... |
| 0:39.0 | I'm Lisa Zamb Betty. I am the casting director for Cebas's Criminal Minds and Board Member for Higher Survivors |
| 0:45.3 | Hollywood and with me today is Laura Richards Criminal Behavioral Analysts, |
| 0:50.1 | former New Scotland Yard and host of the podcast Crime Analysis and also author of the book |
| 0:54.4 | policing domestic violence and I believe that's an important component of this case and |
| 0:59.8 | that's why we have to deep dive and really unravel some of the behaviors that |
| 1:04.6 | we're understanding happened in the Barnett House. So let's dive back in where we left |
| 1:10.4 | off. So Veronica Maxwell is the retired FBI agent and I've worked with her in New York and |
| 1:17.1 | and since then she's a great retired agent she was a great, her husband was a legendary agent too and you know they're very well respected in the FBI so I definitely I definitely |
| 1:30.7 | respect her opinions and but what I don't know is you know because it was unclear |
| 1:36.5 | they tried to you know they they showed her taking like a file out of a desk but |
| 1:41.6 | then not opening it I don't know if that was a file on that case, |
| 1:45.2 | that she actually worked the case or did they just, you know, bring her on to this documentary |
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